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Manuel A. Gomez and Luis M. Gomez were removed twice

I included Manuel A. Gomez, the first Puerto Rican judge in New York City in the "Politicians" segment and myself, Luis M. Gomez, in the "Journalists" segment. However, both listings were removed by users XLR8TION and Marine 69-71. Can the two of you explain why you did that? Are both of you Wiki administrators? LuisGomez111 16:09, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• Luis, how are you? I'll answer on my behalf. Yes, I am an administrator, but that had nothing to do with my actions. Normally, when a person adds himself to the list, it is considered "vanity" but, I wouldn't revert your name because of that. What you need to do is provide a reliable verifiable source, as required by Wikipedia policy, which would proof the notability of both Manuel A. Gomez and yourself and that I think that will cover it. I suggest that you not write an article about yourself because most people here will nominate it for deletion as a "vanity" article. Let soemone else write about you. Tony the Marine 01:07, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

• Tony, thanks for responding. How would I reference non-Internet sources, like books and newspaper articles?

• Luis, I can help you, but right now I have a family medical emergency. Tell you what, I'm going to provide you with two examples. Go to the "Reunion between the Gonzales and Kouts families" section of the David M. Gonzales article and there you will see an example of a newspaper citation. Then go to the "Korean War" section of the William Walter Kouts article and you will see a book citation. These should give you an idea. If you have any other questions, just drop by my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as possible. Cuidate mi hermano que de los buenos quedan poco. Tony the Marine 14:43, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Luis Muñoz Rivera times two

Luis Muñoz Rivera, the former senator and Constitutional Convention delegate BORN in 1916, has been removed by XLR8TION because of duplication in the list. He is not to be confused with his namesake who DIED in 1916, who was Luis Muñoz Marín's father, was never a senator (the PR Senate was created in 1917, months after his death) and certainly was not a member of the 1951-52 Constitutional Convention. The "younger" LMR was a prominent politician of his times, was partticularly well-known for being the next-to-last CC delegate to die, was Doña Felisa Rincón's right-hand man, and after reappointments by Governors pof both parties to the PR Civil Rights Commission, became its first Chairman Emeritus. When he died, Governor Acevedo Vilá, Senate President McClintock and Speaker Aponte extended him the rare privilege of a state funeral at the Capitol.Pr4ever 01:32, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I've reinserted Luis Muñoz Rivera (1916-2006) due to his evident notability and sourced him at his page. He is certainly at least as notable as other politicians on the list, such as George Pabey, Roberto Vigoreaux and Angel O. Berríos.Pr4ever 21:01, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Gen. Antonio Maldonado

Gen. Maldonado, a former B-52 pilot and President of the Puerto Rico Industrial Development Company (PRIDCO) during one of Gov. Hernández Colón's terms, was the main speaker at the Puerto Rico National Cemetery Memorial Day ceremony on May 28, 2007 (contrary to the main speaker at the Memorial Wall ceremony, PR's Senate President, he didn't talk about Tony the Marine!).Pr4ever 01:40, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

• I just noticed this (smile). Maldonado should be ashamed of not mentioning me in his speech considering that Senator Kenneth McClintock did (I'm just joking). Tony the Marine 14:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

David and Dean

The contributors who have been posting and deleting A Zayas' first name as David or Dean should consider the possibility that they may be debating over two different persons. While I haven't heard about the so-called David, I know for a fact that one of the most prominent figures in Puerto Rican theater is named Dean Zayas. An actor, producer, supporter of new theater companies and critic, Dean Zayas is based in PR. Perhaps there is space for both David and Dean.Pr4ever 13:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

• David is an accomplished actor who has appeared in many off-Broadway productions and also on television series such as OZ and Dexter. Simply by replacing his name on the list with a unknow by the name of Dean (who I can't not even find one iota of info on) is simply vandalism. What is next ? Changing Miriam Colon's name to Mary Colon? Stop, read the article, but do not alter the name of the entry as there is already an article written on the well-known David and none on the mysterious non-notable Dean. --XLR8TION 15:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

• I'm not involved in this dispute. I was only an outside observer simply bringing to your attention that apparently there are two Puerto Ricans surnamed Zayas who some people consider notable. As a resident of Puerto Rico I had not heard of David. Based on what you state, he sure sounds notable. Likewise, Ã�'m simply stating the fact that Puerto Rico-based Dean Zayas is a well known person associated with the theatrical life in Puerto Rico. If everyone involved becomes aware that there is a David AND a Dean, then no one should make the mistake of replacing one name for another, but simply gauge whether both are notable enough to share two adjacent spots on the List.Pr4ever 15:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Dagmar

The Dagmar I know is an extremely well-known Hispanic-sounding TV hostess (currently tho co-host with Raymond Dalmau of WKAQ-TV Telemundo's midday locally-produced live program "Día a Día" so once again we may be confusing her with a West Virginian Anglo. Her career spans over two decades and she is prominent enough to merit being on the list.Pr4ever 13:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

• Simply by adding the name of someone with the same name of an Anglo-hostess and after repeated edits and removals, the name simply appears again, that can be labeled as vandalism. I have removed many names of people apparently entered by kids who want to brag that they are on such list, however, notoriety is key here. I have never heard of a PR named Dagmar and her fame/contributions to the main goal of this list simply doesn't validate her entry. --XLR8TION 15:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

--Entre-Nos 05:44, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I have re-posted her name.Pr4ever (talk) 05:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

A proposal regarding this list's maintenance

My understanding is that some Wikipedia lists explicitly state that they should not be edited without prior discussion on the talk page. It seems that informally, given XLR8TION's zealous patrolling of additions, in fact we have a similar situation here. Why not make it explicit? State on the page that editors are welcome to suggest additions (or deletions, no doubt), but subject to the establishment of consensus on the talk page.

Then I would be happy to give XLR8TION carte blanche to continue monitoring and deleting additions that are not backed up by arguments or sources posted and agreed upon here at the talk page.

As for Pr4ever's recent suggestions: I'm convinced of the younger Luis Muñoz Rivera's notability, am halfway convinced of Dean Zayas's, but not of either Gen. Antonio Maldonado's or Dagmar's.

And I propose also that those who are passionately convinced of an individual's notability should be prepared to create a page about him or her, as Pr4ever has done for Muñoz Rivera. (I'll admit that I should do the same for the magnificent poet Tato Laviera... I will when I get half the chance, I promise!) --jbmurray (talk|contribs) 21:33, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

• Regarding jbmurray's wild, baseless, and offesnive accusations, if it wasn't for an ivestigative eye and trying to validate an entry on this list, than Fulano, Fulana and Fulanito will all have entries on this list simply because they claim that they are Puerto Rican. I have literally removed racehorses, fictional characters from television series, and countless vandalism entires even before jbmurray decided to jump on board to monitor this list. It takes dedication, energy and a desire to promote and defend the list's purpose than have others use it to denigrate Puerto Ricans as a whole. Therefore thinking before speaking is highly recommended as by the sound of your Anglo surname, I would recommend that cultural sensitivity and respect be given to ethnic Puerto Ricans.--XLR8TION 23:01, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I deleted John Leguiziamo(spelling?) because his bio states that he was born in Bogota, Columbia.Reinoe (talk) 17:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

John's father, Alfredo, is Puerto Rican. I re-added name to the list The list clearly states anyone of Puerto Rican ancestry can be added, regardless of where they were born. Joaquin Phoenix, Luis Miguel and many notable celebs can also be added because they were born on the island.--XLR8TION (talk) 17:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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